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Nous: Hermes 4 70B vs Qwen: Qwen3 VL 8B Thinking

NNous: Hermes 4 70Bnousresearch/hermes-4-70bVSQQwen: Qwen3 VL 8B Thinkingqwen/qwen3-vl-8b-thinking

Nous: Hermes 4 70B and Qwen: Qwen3 VL 8B Thinking are evenly matched; the right pick depends on your priorities.

MetricNous: Hermes 4 70BQwen: Qwen3 VL 8B Thinking
Intelligence Index16.016.7✓
Coding Index14.4✓9.8
GPQA Diamond70%✓58%
Design Arena Elo——
Speed (tokens/sec)72129✓
Latency268ms✓502ms
Input price /M$0.130$0.117✓
Output price /M$0.400✓$1.36
Context window131K256K✓
CapabilitiesReasoningJSONReasoningToolsJSONVision
Nous: Hermes 4 70B details →Qwen: Qwen3 VL 8B Thinking details →